Accel’s Point Eliminator Kit for ’57-’74 Domestic V8s
By Rick Reimundez
Points suck — they do nothing for performance or your sanity. Really. If you’re notalgic for ‘em, we feel sorry for you. The good news: if you have an older GM, Ford, or Mopar V8 with single point distributors (or, God forbid, dual point AC/Delco distributors) Accel has the gear you need to get rid of that crap.
The Accel kit employs electronic circuitry and an infra-red signal to ensure accurate and stable ignition timing. The kits are available for pretty much any 12-volt negative-ground domestic car and truck with a V8 for about $60.
Points Eliminator Kit for ‘57-’74 GM V8 Engines [Accel]
Points Eliminator Kit for ‘57-’74 Ford V8 Engines [Accel]
Points Eliminator Kit for ‘61-’73 Mopar V8 Engines [Accel]
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November 6th, 2007 at 11:48 am
Actually, points don’t suck. While I don’t work with any domestic V8s, a properly maintained set of points versus something like a Pertronix Ignitor conversion yields no performance improvement and as far as I am concerned no reliability improvement. Not to mention that the Ignitor conversion costs $75 where a set of points is less than $5. A set of points lasts most of my customers 3-4 years, as they only drive their cars on average about 2000 miles a year. So which is more cost effective in the long run?
Other reasons why conversion kits like the Ignitor suck. If your battery or alternator is dying, don’t expect an Ignitor points conversion to work on anything less than 11.5V. Points will continue to operate down to 6-7V… they’ll get you home without a tow! Ignitors also have very poor quality control, some of the magnets come incorrectly polarized, which means the unit has a misfire right out of the box. Poor quality control may be one of the reasons that Petronix dropped the warranty period from 36 to 30 months a few years back.
There are a few other reasons as well. Accel’s kit does look better, it is obviously photo optic, so it doesn’t rely on magnets to trigger a hall effect sensor. Will the Accel offer a performance advantage over properly set points? 100% no. It will eliminate maintenance, and performance degradation from lack of maintenance, but perhaps at the cost of less reliability.
November 24th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Tangentally related; I like the use of points on old motorcycles or choppers. They may be a bit fiddly to set properly, but the advantage to them is that you can always limp home on a set of points, whereas if an ignition module fails, you’re stuck.
On a chopper build, I like the idea of keeping everything as simple and as mechanical as possible. Depending on what kind of alternator rotor you have (permanent magnet vs. excited phase), you can run a capacitor setup instead of a battery. With a kickstart and points ignition, everything is really simple to troubleshoot and run.
–TMIB
December 11th, 2007 at 7:12 am
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December 12th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
hi moe in wichita ks duel points arnt that bad you just have to undestand them. here is an instruction set i wrote for mopar duels, but the same ideas should work on others. now when i say that the must important thing is that the movable point seat flat aganist the other set, i mean it. here it is.
Duel point disturbers
By morris “moe” shouse moe7404@att.net
This is an instruction set as to how to install a pair of points on mopar duel point disturbers, old style hemis, small and big blocks. First get two sets of new points. Then you need to adjust the movable point so it seats flat to the solid point. This is very important to get the points to seat flat. But be careful and bend the movable arm only between the rubbing block and the point. now clamp the shaft tang in a vice with the shaft up and down. Now remove the old points. Put the new ones in. take some cardboard and block one set open then get a feeler gauge .015 thick and 3/16 to ¼ wide and one to one and half long. It must be .015 thick, I know the spec is .017, but trust me .015 will get the total dwell angle to 42 degrees. Now put the feeler gauge in the set that doesn’t have the cardboard in. now the the idea is that one or two lobes are higher than the rest. So what we do is rotate the dist.Housing very very slowely. And adjust the set so that the gauge only falls on the highest lobes. You must put no side pressure on the housing. Its very important that the gauge falls only on the highest lobes. This may take a while, but be patient. Then move the cardboard to the other set of points, and adjust the other set. When you are done you should have 42 degrees total. Just don’t get in a hurry.